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dAmn.ws *Broken* by photofroggy dAmn.ws *Broken* by photofroggy
dAmn.ws is a userscript for the dAmn chatrooms. This userscript gives the official chat client the ability to use WebSockets instead of Flash, Java, and other alternatives.

Why this is a good idea?
Using WebSockets means that no additional browser extensions, aside from this userscript, have to be loaded into the chatrooms in order to connect. This makes connecting faster, and often, more reliable. Using WebSockets for the chatrooms is also faster than using Flash or Java! Install this userscript and you should get a noticeable speed boost when using dAmn.

Installing in FireFox
:bulletgreen: Install Greasemonkey
:bulletgreen: Click to install dAmn.ws

Installing in Chrome
:bulletgreen: Download dAmn.ws
:bulletgreen: Open the extension manager in Chrome (chrome://extensions)
:bulletgreen: Drag and drop dAmn.ws onto the page

Credits
Thanks to the following people for helping make this userscript a reality:
- plaguethenet created and runs the proxy server that is used by the userscript to connect to dAmn.
- KnightAR fixed the userscript to make it work in FireFox, and provided code to make it fit in with the rest of dAmn properly.
- deviant-garde fixed some encoding issues.

Known Bugs
:bulletred: In FireFox, pressing the "escape" button causes the WebSocket connection to be closed. This is a bug in FireFox, I do not know when it will be fixed.
:bulletred: This userscript currently does not work thanks to changes in the chat client. Check this journal for details: photofroggy.deviantart.com/jou…
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Given 2012-11-25
dAmn.ws by =photofroggy

deviantART Related / deviantART Skins & Scripts / Browser Scripts and Extensions

(Suggested by `JoseFelipeM and =Eitvys200) ( Featured by bradleysays )
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This is my first critique, so bear with me here:

The ideas behind this plugin are well understood: use as little resources as possible, and not require more stuff, & also make a more reliable connection. For people that use other dAmn addons will have Greasemonkey, but why do we need flash running all the time? or need plugins that are browser specific? Not quite, anymore, thanks to this.

This plugin also closes a gap between browsers, such Firefox-specific
dAmn XPCOM that is somewhat unreliable, and flaky flash out of the equation, eliminating the dreaded [Flash timeout] on both Chrome, Firefox & Safari, and instead replaces it with a simple userscript that can be used in Chrome using TamperMonkey and Firefox using Greasemonkey. It even connects faster. Multiple browsers, one stone. one solution.

This also seals a gap with alternative operating systems that Firefox & Chrome can run on, such as Android, Linux & Unix, where flash may not be available/installed, allowing those users to access the dAmn network.

This plugin has succeeded at a lot of bridging the gap between user and dAmn, and does it well in a lot of places. With the proper care & maintenance, this will be usable & relevant for a long time to come.
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whisnubintangjiwa89 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
rofl
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One-For-Sorrow Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
dAmn.ws is currently causing me to be unable to enter chatrooms in FireFox. If I leave it enabled, I get this message; sta.sh/0194btw1d33j
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah some changes were made to dA's chat client so dAmn.ws no longer works with it.
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One-For-Sorrow Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, that certainly is unfortunate. Will an updated version be in the works?
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:iconphotofroggy:
photofroggy Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Possibly not. I'm quite busy with University at the moment.

If you want a client that connects using websockets and has a lot of extra stuff built in without having to install userscripts, try wsc.dAmn.wsc.dAmn by photofroggy  
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ThunderClawShocktrix Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014   Digital Artist
Actaully its easy to fix, right below line of code where you set the variable
var dAmnWebSocket = function( ) {

add a new  line with the following code and it will work
DWait.ready(['jms/pages/chat07/chatpage.js', 'jms/pages/chat07/dAmn.js', 'jms/pages/chat07/dAmnChat.js'], function() {

I found that code on this deviant-garde.deviantart.com/j… journal
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
I highly doubt that would be the only thing I would have to change. There would be further scoping issues regarding manipulating objects. I already know about the requirement for using DWait.
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ThunderClawShocktrix Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014   Digital Artist
I know I thought it had fixed it turned out the next time i connected i saw that it was actually going to the mozilla plugin (though oddly that seems to start more reliably with this broken but not to the point of 'barfing an error box' script turned on, i don't get it)
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ThunderClawShocktrix Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014   Digital Artist
nevermind work right -.=.- was actaulyl using the mozilla plugin
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ThunderClawShocktrix Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014   Digital Artist
sorry for the false alarm aobut an easy fix, it did at least get rid of the error message but clearly something else besides just adding that code is needed to make it work right.... *goes to expirment some more*
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ThunderClawShocktrix Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014   Digital Artist
I hope so dA's extension is okay but to fails to initialize half the time
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Kavilene Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Um...I'm using Windows 7, Firefox and Greasemonkey...

It's not working today?
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
This userscript connects to a proxy server which then connects to dAmn. Yesterday the proxy server was down for a bit. Should be working fine now. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
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Kavilene Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you!!!
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ThunderClawShocktrix Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013   Digital Artist
seems to have gone down again
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xxAi-Himexx Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013  Student General Artist
Having this same problem.  Disabled it for the moment. But yes, it hasn't been working all day.
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Leichenengel Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Is there a reason why this does not work anmore? It still worked a few days ago even together with TheBundle but since two days it won't connect anymore. Is it down? Or isn'T it supported any longer because of WSC?
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photofroggy Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
It does work.

I have heard from several people that they are having difficulties with it, but there are a few possible reasons for this.

For others, including myself, it works just fine.

dAmn.ws uses the same connection method as wsc.dAmn.

I am reluctant to support dAmn.ws, mainly because the official dAmn client is a terrible mess and shouldn't exist in its current state. Using stuff like "TheBundle" is a vain attempt at polishing a turd.

I am also currently sitting my final exams for University, so I don't really have the time to waste on supporting a decrepit chat client.

Feel free to use wsc.dAmn or Narwhal. These are much better alternatives to the official client. That said, connection issues may arise. The resources available to use here are incredibly limited. If dA bothered supporting dAmn at all, there would be no need for dAmn.ws, nor wsc.dAmn.

Please, by all means, complain to dA about dAmn being in a state of disrepair. They will not invest any time or resources in dAmn until they feel that people actually want to use the chats. Trouble is, people won't use it until dA starts maintaining it properly. Horrible circular logic. An hopeless downward spiral which will culminate in dAmn being shut off.

Give me a reason to give a shit.
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zio-san Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
The dAmn server uptime costs are just ridiculus and could be covered by an individual so them are nothing for a company.. i wonder if it needs more than a 4-8gb linux 100mbit virtual machine, shutting them down would be a nonsense.. (i guess just the annual fee by all supergroups and premiums of the chats related groups & users is more than needed dAmn annual costs)

the better way imho instead is not to complain but use the chats making interesting projects and give reasons to the users to stay and make userbase grows.. the rest will come by itself...

Thanks for your "vain attempt" rofl xD i like the way how you put someone else months of developing mix technologies in the trash (thebundle is not just the userscript for the actual chats) and is curious how you seems to suffer so much for mantain a less than 300 rows userscript that requires almost nothing manteinance at all (need to remember that is just an interface for the proxy?).. just say the truth.. you want just to drive users to wsc.dAmn ;D

just let people decide what's the best client for their needs no need of tricks
for me all clients could cohexists but is also vital that a good part of the users still use the original client otherwise developers will never being pushed to improving tech

anyways u continue insisting all the time dAmn original client sucks so bad... i agree that isn't the best in terms of freshness but is usable.. we are talking of a chat client not a business high end enviroment that needs to be tuned to the most

You are a good coder and did projects that helped the community a lot.. but lemme say your vision is too much focused on the developer side.. common users don't see the things in the same way

everyday trolling, hating and the general fud carried out by some new or old regulars is what making people to being scared to rest and enjoy the chats as place to relax, share thoughts and ideas...

Regardless the tech, what makes the chats interesting are the people... you can use damn.ws, wsc.dAmn, TheBundle, superdAmn, all the addons or clients you want but the main point is... why i should join a chat? to meet possible friends? people who share my same interests? could i carry out nice conversations or i will be harassed for no actual reasons by some fastidious elements daily?

People and Projects are the key, tech come second or third there..
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photofroggy Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
The resources available to us (myself and others responsible for dAmn.ws and the proxy) are incredibly limited. While dA has a lot more available, they can't dedicate a lot of development time to dAmn. Development time counts as a resource. And I think you may be underestimating the sort of infrastructure required to run dA, and the sort of systems that dAmn should be using. I will not delve into that right now, though.

There are many reasons why people don't use dAmn, and many possible solutions to the problem. dA properly supporting the chats would include them promoting the channels and creating events to get people involved, not just reworking things. Of course other people could do this, but dA should be setting some sort of example, really.

The attitudes of many regulars of dAmn is quite harmful in some cases, but that's really only a minor problem, and one that could be solved relatively easily. Shifting from having Message Network Administrators as a distinct team to just having one team of Community Volunteers made a huge difference, and for the worse, in my opinion. The chat servers really need a set of dedicated moderators to keep things in check. It used to be the case that there were very consistent operators in the chats; they kept proceedings relatively "clean" and often provided entertainment for users. This has been lost. Nay, destroyed. The fact of the matter is, dAmn is neglected almost entirely.

I think you misunderstood my point about userscripts being a vain attempt to polish a turd. The point was the turd, which is the official client, in this case. The quality of your work is neither here nor there. You are far too quick to take offence on the matter. The reason I have held back on actually reviewing your work and giving you some feedback on it is because I worry you would ostensibly get offended for no real reason and just avoid discussing your work.

I am well aware it takes time and effort to create things. You really have to be open to feedback and discussions, even if people do say negative things about it. Instead of focusing on vitriol, you should try and take something from it that you could use to improve your creations and your programming on the whole. I didn't progress by sticking my head in the sand. And I wouldn't continue to progress if I chose to do so now.

I don't really know what you mean by "suffer so much" for a userscript. I pretty much have not touched it since first uploading it and it still works without a hitch. As you say, it simply implements the proxy.

What "tricks"? I'm not using any "tricks". I tell people outright that I think the official client is bad. And it is! It relies on Flash, or other external plugins, to connect to a chat server. This is an obsolete method, and has been for a short while now, but long enough for dA to have done something about it, maybe. But that is more dependant on the state of the chat server's source code, which I don't really know about.

Aside from that, have you tried actually reading through the official client's JavaScript? It is an absolute nightmare to try trawling through. The flow doesn't really make much sense, and it still uses largely functional/procedural programming rather than object oriented programming. While OOP isn't the end-all for programming, it's certainly way more appropriate for this setting. Though, it may be more ideal to have a mixture of OOP and Procedural programming.

Having different clients is indeed a good thing. If more people use wsc.dAmn or Narwhal, maybe dA would be pushed to improve on their own client. Though I suspect they may just leave things in their current state as a usable option exists, and that's fine, apparently.

My point here can be related by simply observing the fact that the features in superdAmn are not already a standard part of the official client. Many of the features are borrowed from userscripts which were around for years prior to superdAmn, things that have been considered essentials soon after the client was initially released. That is over eight years ago.

I do have plans for projects or events or whatever to encourage more people to use the chats, but that doesn't work without having a solid foundation to build upon. The official client simply doesn't cut it as even a basic client any more.
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Leichenengel Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah well I know what you mean - I just noticed that dAmn.ws was working better for me and all the scripts I use than WSC was. In fact WSC still doesn't support all I would like it to support.

Do you think a journal about how people use the chats or want to use the chats would help? Idk - I mean I could file a helpdesk ticket but for what reason? Wouldn't it be better to make some sort of petition about dAmn being reworked?

Good luck with your finals

And if I find a reason to give that will make you give a shit I will let you know :giggle:
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photofroggy Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
If there's stuff that you want to see in wsc, then make some suggestions! That said, wsc already had most of what TheBundle implements, before TheBundle was released. The main thing is not having time to work on it, though.

I'm not sure what would help in getting the chats some more lovin'. I think trying to boost usage may be a better idea. Host events, run competitions, make it interesting for people to actually use. Though that may not work either. A petition would probably be useless, at least at this stage.

A better idea may be to make suggestions that would result in dA making money.

I will work on things in future. As mentioned before it's just a matter of time, and I'm a little stressed out from exams, so excuse me if I'm a little brash.
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Leichenengel Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah it's fine - don't overstrain yourself.

As for suggesting dA of making money from the chats - uh I'd prefer if chatting would stay free from charge. Since I'm not good with visual suggestion all I could do is write suggestions and circumscribe them.

As for WSC: I use superdAmn (I know it'S already in there). I also use Chromacity (because dAmn colors was sort of buggy and outdated) and dAmnGoodies (because I love the nick function). Actuall I don't care if I can use the scripts it's more like I like the functions if they could get implemented without even needing to install scripts I'd be fine as well. I installed TheBundle to try it out and use superdAmn external since the implemented one seems to have issues with other external scripts or vise-versa. I have no idea of all the coding and scripting - I'm merely a user :D

If you have any ideas on how we could dA to put more effort into the chats you can note me when your finals are done and you have some spare time to waste. Together we could possibly work out something to either get people into the chats for the sake of chatting (because hey that is what a chat is mainly for isn't it?), or how to make the chats easier to use and all that stuff. I've tried to get some of my friends who I write notes with to get into the chat but they don't like the interface and since they aren't into scripts because they have no idea or don't use firefox or chrome - well...

I mean there should be a way to sort of implement the functions of some of the most popular scripts like superdAmn, dAmnGoodies, colors, idk what else into the original client so everyone is sort of standing on the same ground no matter what browser.

If I had any idea of coding stuffs I'd possibly apply to take care of it but unfortunately all I can do is complaining or verbally suggesting things that are possibly hard to realize idk...

Anyways - go get your finals done and if time has come we can possibly discuss it a bit deeper ^^
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photofroggy Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
As you mention, wsc.dAmn already implements most of superdAmn's features. "Chromacity" style user colours are also already implemented. The nick function seems kind of silly to me, but I'll consider adding it.

Simply plugging other people's scripts into wsc.dAmn will not work, as wsc.dAmn is a completely separate client from dA's client.

I'm not asking for visual suggestions, just ideas. Words work far better for me. If you do want to make visual suggestions that's fine, but it would be quicker to just type out what you think would be a good idea. And instead of just listing off the names of various userscripts it would be more helpful to tell me what features you would actually want to see in there.

From the looks of things you haven't really checked out the wsc.dAmn much at all. There is a brief introduction to wsc.dAmn on this website:

[link]

For a listing of some of the main features, you can check out the following page (on the same website):

[link]

I have been working on implementing stuff that will allow me to push update notices to users while they are using the client, but this will come after exams.

Part of the point of wsc.dAmn is to greatly reduce the need for userscripts. While useful, they shouldn't be essential.

I have some ideas that could help boost usage of dAmn, but they're a long way off, and require a lot of planning.
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Leichenengel Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well I didn't try out WSC because friends who use it often have issues with it. I've read your most recent journal about WSC and yes I know it's a totally separate client (I mean that's the deal isn't it?)

- Well you could make nicks a function everyone could chose to use or let be - like implementing it and adding a mark in the settings panel people can remove if they decide not to use them - something like that. I just find it cool to nick-name people especially when I have insiders with friends :)

As for other functions...

- Since I know that a lot of people do roleplaying on dAmn something should be added that sort of makes it easier to read long posts. I'm roleplayer myself and a multiline-player in addition so I know it can be a hassle to write as well as read long posts - but for a good RP they are sort of essential to a lot of serious players. But I sort of don't know if something like that is even possible. - is there a character limit on WSC btw? :D

- Friendlist and custom colors for friend tabs (like if Friend A tabs you you could give him a color in the settings so the tab glows red or something). The Bundle has something similar but they only have a small number of preset colors to chose from ^^

- Nationality flags? - I sort of find it a cool feature of TheBundle because it sort of makes the question "Where are you from" unnecessary xDD - but then again it'S not a must have

- There also is a function on TheBundle that can enforce showing mature thumbnails (at least if you have mature deviations activated via your dA settings) - would be useful on channels like ShareZone if you are someone who does not mind seeing mature thumbs ^^ But I guess that is also sort of additional candy lol

- There is a Script called ThumbTools. It helps you organize thumbs and make lists for features and note people on being featured and such stuff. Possibly something similar could be implemented in WSC so people can add thumbs to their collections from WSC (unless that isn'T already possible) or to a temporary list that can be noted to your account ... uhh ... nevermind I sort of noticed that this idea is still sort of embryonic ^^;

I guess that's about it with my ideas so far. BTW: If you copy and paste the text from WSC to for example word - are there any issues? Because Roleplayers like me like to log their RPs on Word so we can make a break and continue later :D I used to play on a chat where I had icons in between the posts when I copy and pasted them to word - it was a hassle to delet them out - idk why it happened. Haven't had it happening on dAmn by now though.

As for the ideas that could help boosting chat usage: Well when your exams are done and you have some spare time we can talk about it - just talk and then we can see how to possibly realize those ideas ^^
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zio-san Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
"the because wsc" would mean a way of force users to use wsc because there are no technical reasons where on wsc it should work and on regular damn not.. probably them are making manteinance.. or the plaguethenet's proxy server is currently down for other reasons

remember that this script act as a client for a websockets server because the orginal dAmn server is not written in a way to understand and use websockets

so you have

your browser (via damn.ws who act as interface) <-> plaguethenet's websockets server <-> dAmn

is not a direct connection, but even if it isn't, is faster than the classic connection way often (except maybe if ping issues happens):

your browser (via flash player) <-> dAmn
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Leichenengel Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
well I use dAmn.ws and not wsc but dAmn.ws hasn't been working recently so I thought I ask :shrug: Not more not less
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Hyperized Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2013  Professional Photographer
You should inform people this is nothing but a shell for a free proxy service. It does not use Websockets to connect to dA directly as this description suggest. (rather its ommited)
This guarantees that chat traffic is going through a third party server. All of the chat traffic and authentication traffic is lead through this proxy.
Infact, none of the traffic is sent securely, meaning that even if you browse to dAmn over HTTPS, websockets will still leak your data by sending it in plain text over any public WiFi network you might use.

For the record, your traffic will be going over a linode hosted server (66.228.46.207) over a domain owned by Corey Thomasson of VA, USA, which is _not_ the listed maker of this script.
For more information:

[link]
[link]
[link]

To disclaim this, its public information and if you chose to use this script, its at your own risk. Its free software, and you are responsible yourself to determine whether its safe to use for yourself. I just wish the author did include more information himself to protect the user and offer the user a fair choice in this.
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
In the credits:

"~plaguethenet created and runs the proxy server that is used by the userscript to connect to dAmn."

I was not intending to mislead anyone, must've overlooked it when first writing things up.

Connecting to dAmn doesn't really require any sensitive data to be sent, aside from your dAmn token. This token can only be used to log into dAmn, as is suggested by its name. Using secure connections for this seems a little over the top.

Corey Thomasson is ~cthom06 on here. He is a friend. The server in question is used to host other things that I help(ed) with.

I'll update the description at some point and possibly post a journal about it, maybe.
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Pheagle-Adler Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2013
Opening connection to: 'chat.deviantart.com'
Plugin: 'WebSocket' [ Creating Websocket ]
Plugin: 'WebSocket' [ Proxy open ]
Plugin: 'WebSocket' [ WebSocket closed ]
You have been disconnected. Reason: [ WebSocket Proxy: Connection to chat server lost or refused (Is the server down?) ]
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Sometimes the chat server crashes. There's nothing we can do about this. Using the proxy or not makes no difference when the server is down. When the server comes back online, then you'll be able to connect again.
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Jim-DA Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
there is an alternative for chrome, there's a greasemonkey-like script called Tampermonkey that renders the process essentially the same as firefox.
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I am aware. I will update the description at some point.
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PortableDrawer Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I m quite impressed of what you invented, never had a single drop and faster connection to the server !! XD. Thanks for that. However one question though, is it possible to optional choice of using secure web socket (TLS) because I think my school block standard websocket to connect anything. Although I found out that secure websocket (TLS) could connect via test by Websocket.org. Thanks
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
At the moment the proxy does not support TLS. I can look into it, but I'm not making any promises.
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PortableDrawer Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the quick reply and for your kindness to look into it! No pressure though. :0
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I have discussed it with others. Secure WebSockets won't be supported any time soon as there is no real need for it.

Sorry about this. Either way I would wager that you shouldn't be on the chats while at school anyways :P
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PortableDrawer Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh ok thanks for trying. You guys did great on this app. Its alright, I think I will try vpn than see if I could try, although I m quite sneaky at school to chat if I m bored :P

Thanks for your thoughtful assistance!!
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
No worries! Thanks for using it, and good luck, I guess.
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lirodon Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why isn't this the official implementation? They need to get on with the times and make chat more modern.
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
deviantART doesn't seem to want to invest many resources in the chat system. This may change in the future, who knows?
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Panda-Virus Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
so there is no ie script... i see

i dont want to use ff, and my dad whom works on computers all day has told me to never download chrome...so is there a way you ould possibly make one for ie?
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Just curious, what justification does he provide for not downloading Chrome? "works on computers all day" can mean absolutely nothing. If he simply uses applications others create, then he may know very little about applications.

Recommending against Chrome seems like an ill-informed opinion to me.

Internet Explorer is probably the worst out of the modern web browsers.
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Jim-DA Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Thought I would point this out, there was a tech article that surprisingly shows chrome has low security in comparison to IE. Of course installing Adblock plus I would daresay improves on security given those pesky ads sometimes hold viruses and of the likes. I personally am fond of chrome, moreso firefox really, but I'll use both, and I do use both.
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shiroishadow Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi, do any of these work for IE? ;v;
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
IE? Hells no!

I may look into it at some point but I'm not sure IE has great support for userscripts, if any.
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shiroishadow Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Aww.... Well, thank you then ;v; OTL
Would it be alright if I asked that you let me know if/when you find anything for it?
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photofroggy Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
If I remember, sure.
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shiroishadow Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Sweet, thanks! ^^-
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Leichenengel Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Doesn't seem to like FlashPlayer 11 - stopped working after I installed the new FlashPlayer...you might want to look into it :3
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